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Frank C. Brown
Date:
08/06/2010
Boat:
Frankly Speaking II
Hi,

I'm working with a person who owns a Bristol 44 ft s/v. We're trying to find his ID number. Do any of you know where the No. xxxxx is located on a Bristol? We spent 40 mins. looking, but to no avail.

Thanks,
Frank Brown
Answer:

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Hi Frank,


I think you are talking about the Hull Identification Number (HIN #). The manufacturer must affix two such numbers to the hull and usually one is stamped into the gelcoat on the starboard outboard transom with the other on a fixed member of the hull beneath a fitting, generally in the engine room or on the mast base of a sailboat. Here's a link that tells you everything you need to know - - click HERE


The following is an excerpt from the actual regulations Coast Guard Department of Transportation; CGD 79-013, 48 FR 40718.

Sec. 181.23—Hull identification numbers required
(a) A manufacturer (or importer), as defined in Sec. 181.3 of this part, must identify each boat produced or imported with two hull identification numbers that meet the requirements of this subpart:

(1) A primary hull identification number affixed in accordance with Secs. 181.29(a) and (c) of this subpart; and

(2) A duplicate hull identification number affixed in accordance with Secs. 181.29(b) and (c) of this subpart.


Look carefully at the top of the starboard transom, you should find the HIN number there, unless the hull has been painted or repaired in a way that obscures the HIN number. It should be within two inches of the deck joint.


Hope this helps.


Best,


Captain Mike Clayton

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Hi Frank,


Ahh yes, the documentation number is different than the HIN number, my mistake. Your certificate of documentation will have your documentation number on it. It is up to the owner to then affix that number in the format No. XXXXXXX to a permanent and highly visible structural member of the boat. Usually, the number is routed into a header board above the navigation station, or a companionway. You certainly shouldn't have to look for 40 minutes - - that means the owner either never had the number mounted, or took it with him when he sold the boat to your friend. In either case, your friend should do exactly what you said - - affix the number in a permanent and visible area.


All the best,


Mike

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Comments:
Frank C. Brown | Boat: Frankly Speaking II | 22/06/2010
I don't know how to reply to you but I must have incorrectly described my problem. My S/V is DOCUMENTED and must have the "official number" for the vessel (which is not the same as the HIN I thought) marked by permanent method which can not be obliterated or obscured. It must be preceded by the letters "No." and be in block-type Arabic numerals. There is no HIN identified on this vessel.
Frank C. Brown | Boat: Frankly Speaking II | 09/07/2010
Thanks. You verified what we thought. The current owner did not know he needed it; the vessel had never had a VSC done for it. So, it's proper now. Again, thanks for the support!!


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